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The Kothoga by KarianaSan The Kothoga by KarianaSan
This is the monster from the old 90's horror flick called The Relic. It was a really good movie, but they skimped on the monster by replacing all the really neat and well crafted body monster suits with cheesy CG. I understand where it could be used in certian places, but the hero suit for this monster actually looked really really cool. To bad it hardly showed up in the actual movie.

The kothoga is a mismosh of parts of other animals. Part horse, part alligator, part lion, and part spider. It's a very cool loking beasty. So for school, I had to make a famous movie monster. And I picked this bugger.


Kothoga was made by Stan Winston's Creature shop
Sculpture made by me.
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MantaDrifter Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2014
Could have sworn the creature was animatronic. Or was there a remake?
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BAMillustration Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Professional General Artist
That's freakin' amazing! I gotta see this movie now.
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zaiqukaj Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2011
The textures and details on this look amazing. I can't help but think it wants to squish something.
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KarianaSan Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2011
Heh, yeah. He probably does want to squish something. I made him sit still and all.

But the details were a pain, took over 10 hours alone on the details. And I had to use all sorts of tools and back of tools, to make sure I got all the textures I wanted. This was one of my favorite finals for a class, ever! XD
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zaiqukaj Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2011
It looks like more than 10 hours worth of work. Good use of all those tools. O__O
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KarianaSan Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011
Well, building the base body was long, but I didn't keep track of how long that was. The 10 hours was just detail work. Like the scales and such. That was the 10 hours. I wished I took more pictures in the process, but I lost track of time as I worked and forgot. Oh well.

But I'm glad you like it. He's my baby from college. I have him under glass, but he's showing his age now, and cracking here and there.
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MDTartist83 Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2011   General Artist
I remember the relic. Especially the monster called the Kothoga.
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Proj077 Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2010
So is Kothoga it's real name?
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KarianaSan Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2010
Technically, Kothoga is in reference to the people who worship this monster. But, you don't really get that from the movie, it is more from the book. Mbwun (translation: "He Who Walks On All Fours") is the Kogotha tribe's Crazed Lizard God.

So in the movie they call it Kothoga.
In the book, they call it Mbwun.

I have bought the book, but have not finished reading it yet. I've been told it's better then the movie, which is a favorite.
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Averant Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Wow.. That is onw crazy ugleh beastie! But still really cool!
Nice pose, Toki! :D Very nicely done. Hope you got a good
grade for this. :D
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KarianaSan Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2010
The Kothoga is fun. I'm trying to read the book now... once I find it again in my pile of stuff... And the Movie is awesome. Though it would have been better, had they used the original costume.

I actually did rather well, since one of the teachers was a fan of the movie. He knew the beasty well enough to be happy it was done. Apparently someone before me had thought about it, and told the teacher, but he had never gotten that far on it. So he was happy I did it.
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Averant Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's great! :D A good greadefor a job well done. :D Cheers!
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drskytower Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
awesome sculpture! And this monster is definitely one of the better monsters to come out of the 90s! I love the details.

Quite strange it was supposed to be a human being. Fancy turning into this ugly fug!
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KarianaSan Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2010
Mmmmm... The Kothoga is by far my favorite movie monster. Though not as evil as say like Freddie or Jason, there is something nice about a brain eating beasty. Poor thing though, got set on fire.
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drskytower Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
and it didn't even run away! Instead it chased her and tried to get that tank open. Not the smartest of beasties!
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KarianaSan Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2010
But, oh so Cute! <3<3
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YumeSupernova Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow! I wanna reach out and touch it. Really cool! :clap:

I've never seen the movie, but it sounds nifty.
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KarianaSan Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2010
It's my favorite horror movie. Though it's original intent with having a full body suit that was later replaced with a CG monster, was quite a disappointment. Both the actor and the suit was amazing, and it was a pity they didn't use it more in the movie.

I recently got the book, while I still need to finish reading. Apparently the monster is a bit different looking. This was modeled off of the movie.
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TheGrandAdmiral Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2009
Wicked awesome on the detail. I just recently reread/saw again both book and movie. And though the movie didn't do much justice on the book, it was still a very good flick. I still wish they had done more with the costume, though, as you've stated in previous comments. Some of that CG was a little iffy even back then.

I hope you do have time in the future to attempt a newer sculpture. :) I only have one request if you ever do...the book puts sooo much emphasis on the Kothoga / Mbwun having three-toed front feet. I'd love to see that detail done in sculpture.
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KarianaSan Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2009
I really need to read the book. I've been a big fan of the movie for a long time,(Granted due to the special effects aspect rather then the movie as a whole) but I have yet to read the book. Maybe I'll look into finally buying it.

Maybe it will inspire me to make a updated one. It's been too long since I did a sculpture, mostly due to my muse being otherwise occupied... probably by something shiny... or lint. <.< >.> <.<
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richardj Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2009
That look like a really good job. Particularly well done on the scales *squints eyes* but it's hard to see for sure! :thumbsup:
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KarianaSan Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2009
I love it, and at the same time it bugs me. Mostly since it was one of the first things I did when I started sculpting, I know I could do a whole lot better now. But, for being one of the first major things I ever did, it's really good. So, it's a nice reminder to do better, but I'm proud of it.

Maybe one day I'll get around to doing a better one.
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haffri Featured By Owner May 11, 2009
Oh wow,that's amazing! Look at all those details! Fantastic work.
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KarianaSan Featured By Owner May 11, 2009
Ah yes, my baby. I'm glad you like! I don't remember how long it took me to make the body, but the details took around ten hours.

I used all sorts of things, like wire loop tools, back of paint brushes, edges of pen tops, etc. Practically anything, I think, can be used with making clay details.
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Sle3pStar Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2009   Photographer
wooow this is really impressive!
the detail you put into it looks really good, bet it took forever =P

How big is it?
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KarianaSan Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2009
Thank you! I'm always happy to see people like the Kothoga.

The detail alone took 10 hours of work. I used various clay tools and backs of things. I used the back of a paintbrush alot for the belly area.

It's probably around a foot long, minus the tail, which might make it closer to two feet. A Wireframe helps keep the whole thing upright and not falling over.
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Catwoman50011 Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2008
OMG what could I say?
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SoniaHedge Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2008
woaw nice work body! I always liked the Kothoga! I have seen this movie lots of time, and recently to show it to my beoyfriend and he liked it! I really like Monsters like the Kothoga! And your sculpture looks really nice more than the monster itself in the movie! lol it's more realistic!
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KarianaSan Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2008
Thank you very much for the comment. I'm happy you like my sculpture. Actually, in the original Relic, they had a realistic model, full body suit for the movie. But it was becoming to costly and they switched at the end for CG instead of the "hero suit" which they had designed.

My sculpture was based on those Hero Suit Designs.
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SoniaHedge Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2008
yeah I think it would have been better if they used this hero suit! ;) anyways your sculpture is awesome!
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KarianaSan Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2008
:: blush:: Thank you very much.
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SoniaHedge Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2008
you are welcome dear! I realy like your sculpture I wish I could do the same! Maybe your artwork gave me the inspirtion to start doing sculpture!^^
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KarianaSan Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2008
It can be alot of fun. Just play around at first, to get used to how the clay reacts to things. Then after a bit, try something bigger.
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SoniaHedge Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2008
cool thanks for the tip! I'm happy that you consider my interest to scluptures!
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KarianaSan Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2008
Each person has their own ideas and styles, so even if two people do the same thing, like in a sculpture the object/critter/what ever will be unique. So why not? Everyone should try playing with clay, it's fun!
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AstroZerk Featured By Owner May 12, 2008  Professional Digital Artist
Awesome! i didn't think I would be able to find anything of Kothoga here
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KarianaSan Featured By Owner May 12, 2008
I think there are a few sketches floating around DA. But I think I'm the only one with a sculpture. Though there might be some model kits, and repaints too.

But thank you. Both for the comment and the Fav!
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Granite-Skull Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2008
Yeah if you get a chance to read the book by Douglas Preston its much better. Oddly enough I believe the creature in the book was not called the kothoga but mbwun instead. I think it was mostly gecko, primate, and other bits of animals in the dna samples they found. Thats one crazy monkey-gecko huh?
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KarianaSan Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2008
Well, the Kothoga is like, Ox, Alligator, Lion and Spider if I remember correctly. Made another animal or two as well. But I know at least those animals.
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Granite-Skull Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2008
Not arguing that part. Those animals were definately stated in the movie, the book just gives a different discription. I still think it made for an interesting beasty.
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KarianaSan Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2008
I wonder if they ever made sketches for it with that book description? Would be interesting to see indeed.
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Granite-Skull Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2008
Well if you go by the artist's depiction on the origional book... well it sucked... I was basically a human upper torso with a raptor's lower body... it was just bad... and not in the good way...
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Terra-fen Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2008  Professional Artisan Crafter
I <3 Stan Winston Studios.
Awesome work! I never got to see this movie, still working on seeing all the movies with Stan Winston Studios behind the FXs.
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KarianaSan Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2008
It's a fun movie, but sadly they replaced the monster with mostly CG. The body suit was made but not used. X<
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Terra-fen Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2008  Professional Artisan Crafter
That's so lame.
I have a Stan Winston book and it looked like it was rad. It's too bad when they pull crap like that one something that people have worked so hard to complete. :/
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KarianaSan Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2008
I think it was the high up people's faults. I looked at the behind the scene's stuff and seen how cool the "action suit" really looked. But the poor guy inside looked like he had a lot of work on all four paws. But some scene's would be to hard for a guy in a costume, so instead of half half they choose all CG >.< Pffftttt.
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Terra-fen Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2008  Professional Artisan Crafter
Oy...that's my biggest pet peev with new movies. The public just eats up the computer generated stuff even though most of it doesn't look that good. And I've heard the suits are less expensive to make for the movie than a CG creature...
Given, as you said, the guy in The Relic suit was on all fours, I can understand them not using him for some of the movie due to how taxing it would be on him to try and achieve those moments of action. But walking around, giving the audience a teaser shot of a shoulder or an eye? He could have done that at least.

It's my opinion that movies would look much better if they used the CG to ENHANCE the real make-up and in certain scenes. If it's thorough the whole thing, it makes it look so damn cheesy. There's a few exceptions. Like The Golden Compass. I accept this movie's CG animals because there would have been no other way to portray their interactions and shapshifting abilities otherwise.

Heh, sorry if I dragged out this conversation and you're annoyed with me ^^; This is one of the few things I have a strong opinion on.
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KarianaSan Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2008
I totally understand, do not feel like you are bothering me. I have a degree in Movie Special Effects and it's knowing a lot of the more physical stuff and while I admit CG has it's place, a lot can be done with better looking suits and make-up. But actually the suits are usually more expensive and also a slight possible hazard since it is physical and might have the possibility to break. Or limit existing movement since it's in the physical realm.

With the Kothoga's case, they didn't keep the real suit in since looking from CG to monster might throw people off. Or at least people like me. I was twitching all of Pan's Labyrinth due to some of the critters in there.
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Terra-fen Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2008  Professional Artisan Crafter
I'll have to go scold the person who told me suits were cheaper. XD

Yeah, there's been prosthetic that I've heard have hurt people's backs or messed up their legs. But they look so much cooler, heh... I would want to run around in pretty well any one of the suits, I think that would be an awesome job too, as well as making them.

Where'd you get your degree? I've been looking around me and it seems that Cinema Make-Up Effects is the only place near me to get any sort of education about Special effects of any kind.
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KarianaSan Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2008
Well, in some situations, it might. But overall I would say not.

I personally prefer the more physically things, though CG does have it's place and time. I'm not totally against it, but I feel we rely on it way to much and sometimes things are much more moving when they know it's actually there and not added by a computer. The love that goes into building something of such grandeur as some older movies is something that should be awe inspiring and to be respected.

I got my Degree in Monesson Penn. USA [link]
It was the closest to me, but there is a lot around. It just takes a while to find. And maybe a tad bit of luck.
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